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Points failure Bristol parkway area
In "Bristol (WECA) Commuters" [361027/30212/21]
Posted by Witham Bobby at 09:40, 29th April 2025
 
Cancellations to services between Bristol Parkway and Bristol Temple Meads
Following a points failure at Bristol Parkway some lines will be reopened shortly. Disruption is expected until 10:00 29/04.
Train services between Bristol Parkway and Bristol Temple Meads are returning to normal but some services may still be cancelled or delayed.
Customer Advice
Following a points failure at Bristol Parkway, train services are returning to normal. However this incident has caused signifiacnt disruption this morning, and so further delays and cancellations should be expected.
Last Updated:29/04/2025 09:27

Affecting services between Bristol and Gloucester/Cheltenham/Worceter too

Re: Driving licences and tests - ongoing discussion, merged topics
In "The Wider Picture in the United Kingdom" [361026/19893/51]
Posted by Witham Bobby at 09:26, 29th April 2025
 
Why is it, and why ever was it, possible for people and bots to buy-up driving tests slots for resale?

Re: Shipping services across the Severn
In "Campaigns for new and improved services" [361025/30207/28]
Posted by Noggin at 09:24, 29th April 2025
 
As others say, amongst other things, I suppose the trouble is that there's not really a suitable rail/road connected port on the English side.

So whilst on one hand a commuters/shoppers ferry from Cardiff Bay to Weston would be a reasonably short trip, getting to the pier on the English side would be a PITA, so you might as well do it on a 1h22 train or 1h10 car journey which won't leave you feeling seasick.

Similarly, whilst there might be enough Cornwall to South Wales freight to fill a ferry, I doubt the numbers stack up even time-wise - by the time you've driven your artic to Ilfracombe (or wherever), loaded it, offloaded it etc, you might as well have just left the truck on the Motorway. In modern logistics, predictability is critical.


Re: Shipping services across the Severn
In "Campaigns for new and improved services" [361024/30207/28]
Posted by Witham Bobby at 09:15, 29th April 2025
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I'm pretty certain that I've heard talk of a service to and from Swansea over the years.... perhaps from Ilfracombe?  Whether there would be sufficient customers for the service.....well, there's been nothing happening so far.
I would venture that any service further east would find it difficult to demonstrate cost or time savings over existing road and rail options.

Ilfracombe isn't all that easy to get to, though.  I know the town and surroundings are a majour tourist area, but it's not well populated for around 35 weeks a year

If only there was a railway there

Re: Shipping services across the Severn
In "Campaigns for new and improved services" [361023/30207/28]
Posted by rogerpatenall at 07:54, 29th April 2025
Already liked by Witham Bobby
 
I suspect that the terminal platforms at WSM were the old Locking Road station

Re: Doublebagging, Rawdoggers, Barebackers
In "Transport for London" [361022/30203/46]
Posted by TaplowGreen at 07:20, 29th April 2025
Already liked by GBM
 
Pat the seat next to you and grin gormlessy at the person looking to sit on it. They'll very likely move on, not wanting to sit next to the weirdo!

......................I knew I'd seen you somewhere before! 

Walk to Pilning and return by train - 5th May 2025
In "Diary - what's happening when?" [361021/30211/34]
Posted by grahame at 06:51, 29th April 2025
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Walk from Severn Beach to Pilning - Lunch at the Plough - then getting the parliamentary train service back  from Pilning station Saturday 3rd May 2025

Ann invites you to join her on Saturday 3rd May for a walk from Severn Beach station to Pilning, followed by lunch at the Plough and then catching the afternoon ‘parliamentary train service’ from Pilning Railway station back to Temple Meads.

(A parliamentary train service nowadays means a token service to a given station, thus maintaining a legal fiction that the station is open, whereas in reality the train operating company in question has almost completely abandoned the station. These services only run at all because it is much cheaper for a train operating company to run a parliamentary service than it is to go through the full legal process of applying for a station to be permanently closed).

       *Catch the 09.46 from Bristol Temple Meads to Severn Beach, arriving at 10.24.  (This train is from Weston Super Mare)
       *Walk is along quiet roads with only one busy road to cross – it should take about 1.5 hours.
       *Lunch is at the Plough in Pilning  (Pilning Street, Pilning, BS35 4JJ) – the pub opens at 12 noon and does food from 12 noon to 2 pm
       *Then the short walk to Pilning station for the 15.32 departure to Bristol Temple Meads.  There are no facilities at Pilning apart from a shelter

      * The cost for this journey (Pilning to Temple Meads) is £5.80 without a railcard or £3.85 with a railcard - either buy tickets in advance or take a chance of buying them on the day.

For For those who do not wish or are unable to do the walk but would like to meet up for the social at the Plough – catch the number 12, Stagecoach bus from either Bristol Parkway or Severn   Beach.  It is an hourly service in each direction.  From Bristol Parkway direction, the best stop is Swanmoor Bridge which is about a 20 minute walk from the Plough.  This stop is also the best option if coming from Severn  Beach direction too.

To get a rough idea of number please e-mail me on ae.light - at - btinternet.com

This is run in conjunction with Bristol Rail Campaign - and it is open to everyone

A good trip - I did similar a while back.  Did you know that trains calling at Pilining are (or it was on that day) running under electric power with a 5 carriage train.

Re: Shipping services across the Severn
In "Campaigns for new and improved services" [361020/30207/28]
Posted by grahame at 06:41, 29th April 2025
 
I'm pretty certain that I've heard talk of a service to and from Swansea over the years.... perhaps from Ilfracombe?  Whether there would be sufficient customers for the service.....well, there's been nothing happening so far.
I would venture that any service further east would find it difficult to demonstrate cost or time savings over existing road and rail options.

As a commercial service to get from "A" to "B", I would wish to see traffic figures / projections; as a leisure trip perhaps via Lundy ...

Time savings would be so hard to demonstrate at the sort of frequency involved as the wait for the scheduled service unless frequent would, I suspect, outweigh any gain in the actual transit time.  And Ilfracombe is not exactly motorway connected.

Re: 2025 - Service update and amendment log, Swindon <-> Westbury
In "TransWilts line" [361019/29726/18]
Posted by grahame at 06:16, 29th April 2025
 
05:11 Gloucester to Southampton Central due 08:09

Facilities on the 05:11 Gloucester to Southampton Central due 08:09.
Toilet facilities are not available. Disabled toilet facilities are not available.

Re: Shipping services across the Severn
In "Campaigns for new and improved services" [361018/30207/28]
Posted by johnneyw at 23:12, 28th April 2025
 
I'm pretty certain that I've heard talk of a service to and from Swansea over the years.... perhaps from Ilfracombe?  Whether there would be sufficient customers for the service.....well, there's been nothing happening so far.
I would venture that any service further east would find it difficult to demonstrate cost or time savings over existing road and rail options.

Re: Spain / Portugal power outage
In "The Wider Picture Overseas" [361017/30210/52]
Posted by Timmer at 22:13, 28th April 2025
Already liked by Witham Bobby
 
Managed to dodge any issues  flying home from Spain flying from Girona to Stansted this afternoon. The lights and everything else briefly went out across the airport but didn’t affect the running of the airport at all.

Arrived at Stansted bang on time so thought all would be well getting home until the wretched rail network we have said ‘hold my beer’ with multiple points failures at Reading and Westbury messing up the journey home so a big delay repay claim will be going in tomorrow.

When it comes to travelling to and from the airport in future it will never be by train ever again. Messed up big time last November and again today. It will be by car.

Re: Driving licences and tests - ongoing discussion, merged topics
In "The Wider Picture in the United Kingdom" [361016/19893/51]
Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 21:30, 28th April 2025
 
From the BBC:

'Driving test waits are so long because examiners don't earn enough'

Clearing the backlog in driving test wait times relies on improving pay and conditions for examiners, industry professionals have said.

The government has pledged to provide 10,000 extra practical test slots each month, after transport secretary Heidi Alexander said the average wait time of six months was "totally unacceptable." She promised to double the capacity to train new examiners.

Yet Craig Harris from the Sheffield and District Driving Instructors Association said the difficulties in recruiting and retaining examiners had arisen because they could make more money teaching learners than assessing them. He said: "Examiners used to make a decent wage. Now, instructors make their wages in 14 hours, so why would anyone go and work 37 and a half hours?"

The Driver and Vehicle Standards Agency (DVSA), a government body, recruits examiners, who are classed as civil servants and therefore unable to speak to the media. Some of them are represented by the Public and Commercial Services (PCS) union, which said there needed to be "long-term investment into training and staffing" to achieve manageable waiting times.

"A long-term solution to mitigating driving test waiting times can be achieved through proper investment into DVSA resources and employees," a PCS spokesperson said. "These include a return to a substantive [permanent or long-term] contract where weekend working is optional and paid properly, at an overtime rate."

The DVSA announced last week it would reintroduce overtime pay, and said it would ask staff in other roles who are qualified examiners to hold tests. It is all in an effort to clear the backlog of test-ready learners by summer 2026 and get the average wait down to seven weeks.

Mr Harris said similar attempts to reduce waiting lists have failed previously, as a "big area of recruitment has gone".  "A heck of a lot of instructors used to be recruited to be examiners, as we thought we'd have an easier life there, but that's changed now," he said.

A quick search for examiner roles through the DVSA shows a typical salary to be just above £28,000 before tax.

Driving instructors tend to be self-employed and work a range of hours, but full-time instructors typically earned up to £40,000 and "even exceeded that" in 2023, according to the AA.

The DVSA did not comment on its working conditions and pay. It noted customers were "not seeing the immediate effect" of measures announced last year, which aimed to recruit 450 examiners and give higher penalties for short-notice cancellation.

Pauline Reeves, DVSA's director of driver services, said there had been "significant progress" on the original plan and the recent announcement would help "accelerate" that plan.

Some learner drivers are taking tests elsewhere in the country due to a lack of slots available in their area.

Gwydion Elliot, a biosciences student at the University of Sheffield, is set to take his practical test in Wakefield in late September. "If it's past six months they don't list it, and there was nothing available for Sheffield test centres at all," he said.

Learners can only book practical tests six months in advance, and they wait on average 22 weeks and three days to secure a test.

"The pressure has really mounted," Mr Elliot added. "It's hard to sit in a test with the knowledge that if you fail, you might be waiting another six months". He said he hoped to find work as an ecologist which would involve visiting field sites far from public transport links. "I'll have a much easier job finding a job in that sector once I can drive," he said.

Instructors are also feeling the pressure of supporting their students through such a difficult challenge, Mr Harris said. "I consider our prices below average at around £35 an hour, but that is still not cheap. If they then choose to only take occasional lessons while they wait, that makes it hard for us to fill our diary. The worst thing is, if they fail a test, they've got a six-month wait again."



Re: Spain / Portugal power outage
In "The Wider Picture Overseas" [361015/30210/52]
Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 21:12, 28th April 2025
 
From the BBC:


While some flights are running as normal, the issues impacted the roads and public transport is likely to be a problem for travellers trying to get to airports.

Spain's Transport Minister Oscar Puente said it was not likely that medium and long-distance trains would resume normal service on Monday.

He said the plan was to resume shorter-distance commuter services as soon as electricity supplies had been restored. Work is also under way to rescue people trapped on stranded services.



Re: Spain / Portugal power outage
In "The Wider Picture Overseas" [361014/30210/52]
Posted by ChrisB at 21:10, 28th April 2025
 
Long & medium distance trains have been halted, passengers rescued where necessary. Commuter trains restarted this evening in parts

Spain / Portugal power outage
In "The Wider Picture Overseas" [361013/30210/52]
Posted by Mark A at 21:00, 28th April 2025
 
How is this impacting their railways + transport, I'm wondering.

Mark

Re: Stop orders as cover for cancelled services
In "Heart of Wessex" [361012/30201/19]
Posted by paul7575 at 20:52, 28th April 2025
 
It makes sense to add "stop" orders and indeed to call diverted trains during engineering works at various stations. 

It does happen - as an example,  during the recent closure of the St Denys to Fareham line, the SWR Romsey 6 was pulled between Southampton and Romsey via Eastleigh, with the diverted long distance Cardiff to Portsmouth train making the calls at Chandlers Ford which would otherwise have been unserved.

From what I’ve seen over the years that’s been the routine used since Chandlers Ford first reopened.  It was a standard diversion for the Portsmouth - Cardiff trains already, I don’t think the line itself had ever closed to passenger traffic.

Paul

Re: 2025 - Service update and amendment log, Swindon <-> Westbury
In "TransWilts line" [361011/29726/18]
Posted by TaplowGreen at 20:17, 28th April 2025
 
17:50 Gloucester to Salisbury due 20:06
17:50 Gloucester to Salisbury due 20:06 was terminated at Westbury.
It will no longer call at Dilton Marsh, Warminster and Salisbury.
This is due to train crew being delayed by service disruption.

Re: Thames Valley infrastructure problems causing disruption elsewhere - 2025
In "Across the West" [361010/29650/26]
Posted by TaplowGreen at 20:17, 28th April 2025
 
Cancellations to services between Reading and Newbury

Due to a points failure between Reading and Newbury some lines are disrupted.

Train services running to and from these stations may be cancelled, delayed or revised. Some stations between Reading and Taunton will not be served. Disruption is expected until 14:30 28/04.

14:03 London Paddington to Penzance due 19:25

14:03 London Paddington to Penzance due 19:25 will be diverted between Reading and Taunton.
It will call additionally at Westbury.
It will be delayed due to the diversion and is expected to be 33 minutes late.
This is due to a points failure.
Last Updated:28/04/2025 14:17

Previous train (13:03) terminated short at Reading.  And it looks like this one can slip through the single line section between Chippenham and Trowbridge between local trains - good.

Cancellations to services between Reading and Newbury
Due to a points failure between Reading and Newbury some lines are disrupted.
Train services running to and from these stations may be cancelled, delayed or revised. Some stations between Reading and Taunton will not be served. Disruption is expected until 14:30 28/04.

"Until 14:30"?  No - the disruption to the 14:03 has it being forecast 33 minutes late into Penzance at 19:58 rather than 19:25,  so disruption until 20:00?



Disruption still ongoing.

Re: Doublebagging, Rawdoggers, Barebackers
In "Transport for London" [361009/30203/46]
Posted by JayMac at 19:51, 28th April 2025
Already liked by Witham Bobby
 
Pat the seat next to you and grin gormlessy at the person looking to sit on it. They'll very likely move on, not wanting to sit next to the weirdo!

Re: Chiltern Railways: an update on rolling stock / services
In "Chiltern Railways services" [361008/30206/44]
Posted by Mark A at 19:24, 28th April 2025
Already liked by Witham Bobby
 
They're struggling with demand and also with the age of their fleet of trains. A roundup from Chiltern on this link.

Mark

https://www.chilternrailways.co.uk/capacity-challenges-2025



We have been working with the Department for Transport on modernising our fleet since 2021
Chiltern Railways

F O U R  years to not get to a decision yet.  And, although I know this should require incredulity, I guess it's actually unsurprising

Are we entiltled to ask what we are paying civil servants in the DfT to do with their time?

Six months into the negotiations, an image from that time has surfaced, showing proceedings from the point of view of the applicant.

Mark

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Re: Chiltern Railways: an update on rolling stock / services
In "Chiltern Railways services" [361007/30206/44]
Posted by ChrisB at 16:38, 28th April 2025
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I would expect all these to be used on their MainLine (Birmingham/Oxford), allowing the 168s to strengthen the turbo services, so all trains get to be at least 5 coaches (many platforms are only that length)

Re: Thames Valley infrastructure problems causing disruption elsewhere - 2025
In "Across the West" [361006/29650/26]
Posted by grahame at 14:32, 28th April 2025
Already liked by Witham Bobby
 
Cancellations to services between Reading and Newbury

Due to a points failure between Reading and Newbury some lines are disrupted.

Train services running to and from these stations may be cancelled, delayed or revised. Some stations between Reading and Taunton will not be served. Disruption is expected until 14:30 28/04.

14:03 London Paddington to Penzance due 19:25

14:03 London Paddington to Penzance due 19:25 will be diverted between Reading and Taunton.
It will call additionally at Westbury.
It will be delayed due to the diversion and is expected to be 33 minutes late.
This is due to a points failure.
Last Updated:28/04/2025 14:17

Previous train (13:03) terminated short at Reading.  And it looks like this one can slip through the single line section between Chippenham and Trowbridge between local trains - good.

Cancellations to services between Reading and Newbury
Due to a points failure between Reading and Newbury some lines are disrupted.
Train services running to and from these stations may be cancelled, delayed or revised. Some stations between Reading and Taunton will not be served. Disruption is expected until 14:30 28/04.

"Until 14:30"?  No - the disruption to the 14:03 has it being forecast 33 minutes late into Penzance at 19:58 rather than 19:25,  so disruption until 20:00?


Re: Thames Valley infrastructure problems causing disruption elsewhere - 2025
In "Across the West" [361005/29650/26]
Posted by TaplowGreen at 14:15, 28th April 2025
 
Cancellations to services between Reading and Newbury

Due to a points failure between Reading and Newbury some lines are disrupted.

Train services running to and from these stations may be cancelled, delayed or revised. Some stations between Reading and Taunton will not be served. Disruption is expected until 14:30 28/04.

Re: North Cotswold line - driver route knowledge
In "London to the Cotswolds" [361004/30209/14]
Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 13:59, 28th April 2025
Already liked by charles_uk
 

Might it be worth having this in a separate thread?


Yes - and now it does have a topic of its own. 

CfN. 

Re: North Cotswold line delays and cancellations - 2025
In "London to the Cotswolds" [361003/29711/14]
Posted by charles_uk at 13:47, 28th April 2025
 
A few from the last couple of days:

Fri 25 April

1453 Paddington to Worcester Foregate Street cancelled between London Paddington and Slough due to a points failure (IB) and  cancelled between Oxford and Worcester Foregate Street due to unknown cause (ZW)

1726 Worcester Foregate Street to Paddington cancelled between Worcester Foregate Street and Oxford due to unknown cause (ZW) and was cancelled between Reading and London Paddington due to an issue with the train crew (TG)

Sun 27 April

0844 Paddington to Great Malvern cancelled between London Paddington and Worcester Shrub Hill due to an issue with the train crew (TH)

0858 Great Malvern to London Paddington was cancelled due to the train operator's request (TB)

1312 Worcester Foregate Street to London Paddington was cancelled due to an issue with the train crew (TH)

Station Jim’s whereabouts
In "London to Reading" [361002/30208/7]
Posted by Birdie100 at 13:00, 28th April 2025
Already liked by Mark A
 
I wondered if any forumites had any details of the whereabouts of Station Jim who’d proudly stood in a Perspex box in Slough for many years. Given the initial GWR Facebook post suggested he’d be gone for 2months last summer, I’m becoming concerned he’s lost without trace. Not like you can just claim for the delay on Delay Repay for him!

https://www.facebook.com/share/16St6uGyuL/?mibextid=wwXIfr

North Cotswold line - driver route knowledge
In "London to the Cotswolds" [361001/30209/14]
Posted by charles_uk at 12:44, 28th April 2025
 
Going back to route knowledge in 2021 60+ Bristol drivers used to sign Newport Hereford Oxford and Didcot as well as Worcester to Cheltenham. From next month that will be zero.

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Might it be worth having this in a separate thread? Whilst the annual delays and cancellation thread is a useful historical record, there is sometimes the risk that the issues behind particular delays (e.g. regular flooding in a particular area, the issues with the bridge at Yarnton last year) simply get buried when, perhaps, they deserve a little more air.

Shipping services across the Severn
In "Campaigns for new and improved services" [361000/30207/28]
Posted by grahame at 12:16, 28th April 2025
 
There's an old postcard being shared here on Facebook of Barry Railway cruises across the Severn Estuary and the question being asked as to whether a service could / should resume.  One commentator suggested that bus and rail links are needed.

At the Barry end, the line that terminates at Barry Island station used to continue on through a tunnel to Barry Pier station; last steamer called there in 1971 and the station officially closed in 1976.  Like so many seaside and other branch lines, cut back.

Notable on the advertising postcard - just how many of the locations served across the channe in England no longer have a rail link - Clevedon, Burnham, Lynmouth.  Two more have a rail link that's disconnected for all but occasional used from the national network - Minehead and Watchet.  And the final destination - Weston-super-mare does still have a station. Looking at old maps, railway tracks used to run closer to the town, but was that a goods yard or terminal platforms?



Is there any scope for a cross-Severn service again, and if so for what traffic and serving where?

Re: Chiltern Railways: an update on rolling stock / services
In "Chiltern Railways services" [360999/30206/44]
Posted by IndustryInsider at 12:07, 28th April 2025
Already liked by Witham Bobby, grahame, Richard Fairhurst, Mark A, Andy E, ray951, Timmer, eightonedee, Western Pathfinder
 
Painfully slow negotiations again on what should be something fairly easy to solve.  The fleet is not being used elsewhere.  There is a clear need for the extra capacity.

Look at the fuss and nonsense just to get a few redundant Class 175s to GWR.

Re: Chiltern Railways: an update on rolling stock / services
In "Chiltern Railways services" [360998/30206/44]
Posted by Witham Bobby at 11:56, 28th April 2025
 
They're struggling with demand and also with the age of their fleet of trains. A roundup from Chiltern on this link.

Mark

https://www.chilternrailways.co.uk/capacity-challenges-2025



We have been working with the Department for Transport on modernising our fleet since 2021
Chiltern Railways

F O U R  years to not get to a decision yet.  And, although I know this should require incredulity, I guess it's actually unsurprising

Are we entiltled to ask what we are paying civil servants in the DfT to do with their time?

 
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